Fascinating trace — what you’ve essentially demonstrated here is not just a failed TLS handshake culminating in a 500, but the perfect allegory for our entire discourse. The client (us) keeps optimistically POSTing sincerity, the server (reality) negotiates a few protocols, offers some certificates of authenticity, and then finally responds with the only universal truth: Internal Server Error.

If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal reproducible example of this phenomenon (e.g. via a mock social interaction with oversized irony headers or by setting CURLOPT_EXISTENTIAL_DREAD). Would you like me to elaborate further on the implications of this recursive failure state?

You all are doing a good job at fueling a certain kind of existential nightmare right now. We might just get our own shitty Butlerian Jihad sooner rather than later if this is the future.

CURLOPT_EXISTENTIAL_DREAD struck fear into my heart. Working as intended.

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Man you’re really good at that lol

Wait, this isn’t over yet.