The main argument is "it's been in the mix for 20 years", and part of demonstrating it has been was to state that even the Obama administration didn't do much to stop it, so it kept escalating.

Not only I don't conflate the two, but you make the whole Obama note the center of this discussion, while it was there for the purpose of illustration.

This is how tribe politics work and how the US fell to the best populists instead of trying to tackle society's problems.

I have no interest in discussing with you anymore, since you don't seem interested in talking about ideas, only find an enemy to your tribes.