It's really odd how many people on hn are pro china. Why? They are not good guys. At all.

In moral terms they are so far behind the West they are in a different team. (and don't throw in disingenous deflections like gaza and whatever, those are orders of magnitude less bad then China) The West is full of freedom and the pursuit of happiness and wealth. China isn't.

Nobody here is pro Russia or Iran, or even particularly pro India. So why is Communist China different?