Its different because the AI model will then automate the use of that knowledge, which for most people in this forum is how they make their livelihood. If OpenAI were making robots to replace plumbers, I wouldn't be surprised when plumbers said "we should really stop giving free advice and training to these robots." Its in the worker's best interest to avoid getting undercut by an automated system that can only be built with the worker's free labor. And its in the interest of the company to take as much free labor output (e.g. knowledge) as possible to automate a process so they can profit.
> plumbers
I have received free advice that reduced future need from such actual plumbers (and mechanics and others for that matter)
> we should really stop giving free advice and training to these robots
People routinely freely give advice and teach students, friends, potential competitors, actual competitors, etc on this same forum. Robots? Many also advocate for immigration and outsourcing, presumably because they make the calculus that it is net beneficial in some scenarios. People on this forum contribute to an entire ecosystem of free software, on top of which two kids can and have built $100 billion companies that utilize all such technology freely and without cost. Let's ban it all?
Sure, I totally get if you want to make an individual choice for yourself to keep a secret sauce, not share your code, put stuff behind paywall. That is not the tone and the message here. There is some deep animosity advocating for everyone shutting down their pipes to AI as if some malevolent thing, similar to how Ted Kaczynski saw technology at large.
the AI isn't malevolent (... yet)
but the companies operating it certainly are
they have no concept of consent
they take anything and everything, regardless of copyright or license, with no compensation to the authors
and then use it to directly compete with those they ripped off
not to mention shoving their poor quality generated slop everywhere they can possibly manage, regardless of ethics, consent or potential consequences
children should not be supplied a sycophantic source of partial truths that has been instructed to pretend to be their friend
this is text book malevolence
> but the companies operating it certainly are
Which ones in particular? Is your belief all that are companies are inherently malevolent? If not why don't you start one that is not? What's stopping you?
All the ones that illegally downloaded books for one?
> Is your belief all that are companies are inherently malevolent? If not why don't you start one that is not?
Because the one I start will be beaten by the one that is malevolent if they have a weapon that is as powerful as AI. All these arguments about "we shared stuff before so what's the problem?" are missing the point. The point is that this is about the concentration of power. The old sharing was about distribution of power.
I don't think I need to give a list
> What's stopping you?
from doing what?
I don't want shitty AI slop; why would I start a company intent on generating it?