Oh wow, I'm surprised the name change appears to be so universally appreciated on reddit.
It doesn't strike me as different from "porn" i.e. "unix porn" "food porn" etc, which are at least somewhat widely accepted. I assumed it was self-aware/deprecating humor, as in the people there recognized they were frequently replacing which gear they used beyond what might be strictly necessary.
It was colorful, in the way a lot of music and art is colorful. It's not like it's a sysadmin forum...
before stackoverflow there was expertsexchange.com and they were forced to add a hyphen to the name because people kept making fun of the expertSEXchange, it became experts-exchange.com
Wow, I probably haven't logged into EE into 20 years. I just tried now and somehow guessed my username and 5 letter password first time. They want $9.99 to let me in, though, but they claim to have all my achievements still...
I guess the reason why modern times feel so bland is because we all agree on the lowest common denominator, and then celebrate that as "iNcLuSiViTy". If anything you do has any personality, aka deviates from the standard workflow, it immediately gets a disadvantaged position on the free market.
It's like, we collectively prioritize efficiency over fun and then we wonder why life is not fun even though it is efficient.
Dumb frat-boy innuendos count as personality now, huh?
Let's just leave aside the fact that the name genuinely made many people uncomfortable and unwelcome there (it did), it was also just teenage and immature. There's ways to inject personality and fun into a social experience without giggling about sex. Talk about lowest common denominator...
something something "things I don't find funny are objectively bad and wrong and you're a bad person, be a boring serious miserable adult like everyone else" something something
I feel like there's confusion regarding the word "mature". It's supposed to mean that someone has lots of experience and draws knowledge from it, but in reality often people use the word "mature" to describe a certain specific societal ideal of a person that we're supposed to grow into.
The problem is that societal consesus is often wrong, and that image of a perfectly mature person actually does have a lot of problems with it. Every generation discovers this, and redefines that ideal.
40 years ago in my country a "mature man" was expected to take part in alcohol drinking contests until blackout. Nowadays a "mature man" is expected to drink as little alcohol as possible.
Neither attitude is actually about learning and forming a personal, informed opinion, both of them are about following whatever is currently in fashion.
In the late 90s my then-wife was watching over my shoulder one day and saw the domain “freshmeat.net” pop up as a possible auto-completion in my address bar. She was justifiably suspicious until I showed her it was just a software distribution site.
This person is a nice person, who's published a huge amount of positive work into the Ruby community. I do wish however they'd change their name from the perspective of a figurehead in the community, we have code referencing their repos and it's just awkward with interns to explain.
It is simply hilarious to make grown adults visit a website called tender love making dot com (a sexual reference) to read a very specific and niche blog about technology.
The author's name is tenderlove. He has been a famous contributor to Ruby and Rails for at least 10 years. If this is objectionable to you, it shows your lack of expertise.
Just a nit — your post would have been fine without that last sentence, no need to be prickly. I haven’t touched RoR in 15 years and was not familiar with the name.
This reminds me of a flash games website from 2007. The domain was something like sogay.com. one time I had to spell it to my father. He asked if I'm sure before pressing enter lol
There is a very popular professional audio website called Gearspace that had a much spicier name for a long, long time.
https://gearspace.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/mftc0g/ge...
Oh wow, I'm surprised the name change appears to be so universally appreciated on reddit.
It doesn't strike me as different from "porn" i.e. "unix porn" "food porn" etc, which are at least somewhat widely accepted. I assumed it was self-aware/deprecating humor, as in the people there recognized they were frequently replacing which gear they used beyond what might be strictly necessary.
It was colorful, in the way a lot of music and art is colorful. It's not like it's a sysadmin forum...
If only people who liked a certain GNU image editing app were so appreciative of such an idea...
At one time there was a fork called Glimpse which basically had some minor UI improvements and a sane name.
before stackoverflow there was expertsexchange.com and they were forced to add a hyphen to the name because people kept making fun of the expertSEXchange, it became experts-exchange.com
Wow, I probably haven't logged into EE into 20 years. I just tried now and somehow guessed my username and 5 letter password first time. They want $9.99 to let me in, though, but they claim to have all my achievements still...
Modwiggler changed name around the same time.
From what to what?
Original name: muffwiggler
Ha ha, I remember that name.
I guess the reason why modern times feel so bland is because we all agree on the lowest common denominator, and then celebrate that as "iNcLuSiViTy". If anything you do has any personality, aka deviates from the standard workflow, it immediately gets a disadvantaged position on the free market.
It's like, we collectively prioritize efficiency over fun and then we wonder why life is not fun even though it is efficient.
Dumb frat-boy innuendos count as personality now, huh?
Let's just leave aside the fact that the name genuinely made many people uncomfortable and unwelcome there (it did), it was also just teenage and immature. There's ways to inject personality and fun into a social experience without giggling about sex. Talk about lowest common denominator...
something something "things I don't find funny are objectively bad and wrong and you're a bad person, be a boring serious miserable adult like everyone else" something something
> Dumb frat-boy innuendos count as personality now, huh?
There are many personalities. Not everything has to be mature
I feel like there's confusion regarding the word "mature". It's supposed to mean that someone has lots of experience and draws knowledge from it, but in reality often people use the word "mature" to describe a certain specific societal ideal of a person that we're supposed to grow into.
The problem is that societal consesus is often wrong, and that image of a perfectly mature person actually does have a lot of problems with it. Every generation discovers this, and redefines that ideal.
40 years ago in my country a "mature man" was expected to take part in alcohol drinking contests until blackout. Nowadays a "mature man" is expected to drink as little alcohol as possible.
Neither attitude is actually about learning and forming a personal, informed opinion, both of them are about following whatever is currently in fashion.
> There are many personalities. Not everything has to be mature
Is a "mature personality" mature ? How do you test for it ? /s
> Dumb frat-boy innuendos count as personality now, huh?
Yes, they do.
In the late 90s my then-wife was watching over my shoulder one day and saw the domain “freshmeat.net” pop up as a possible auto-completion in my address bar. She was justifiably suspicious until I showed her it was just a software distribution site.
Infohazard warning:
C++ reference is one of these.
See also: Experts Exchange, Pen Island
Isn't pen island intentional though?
There was also a website for a mole station, but I'm not sure if that one was satire.
And she wasn’t suspicious of amazon.com? ;)
Site belongs to Aaron Patterson, one off the most prolific Ruby developers in the world.
Something something Railed.
Nah that's just a one off
As if "tender lovemaking" is so shocking?
Obviously there must be bureaucracy and an RFP involved!
I’m old enough to remember arXiv being hosted by Los Alamos National Laboratory under the domain xxx.lanl.gov.
It’s understandable why they changed their name.
Whaaa, you don't like tender lovemaking?
This person is a nice person, who's published a huge amount of positive work into the Ruby community. I do wish however they'd change their name from the perspective of a figurehead in the community, we have code referencing their repos and it's just awkward with interns to explain.
Why would a person need to conform to some uniform grey norm to be able to contribute in any capacity?
Ruby's community has been all sorts of whimsy and quirky over the years.
I very much enjoy Tenderlove being the community figurehead he is as is: kind, empathetic, genuine, open-minded, and generally wholesome.
> it's just awkward with interns to explain.
I've never had any trouble talking about Aaron Patterson a.k.a Tenderlove to coworkers, interns or otherwise.
Why? It's brilliant.
What's brilliant about it? What's the reference, for those of us unfamiliar?
It is simply hilarious to make grown adults visit a website called tender love making dot com (a sexual reference) to read a very specific and niche blog about technology.
"tender love making" and then the specific URL mention photos and corruption... it could look really bad!
You are welcome not to visit it if you do not want to hear from a Rails contributor for over 10 years.
Of course. I have no issues with that but I acknowledge that it could be funny.
The author's name is tenderlove. He has been a famous contributor to Ruby and Rails for at least 10 years. If this is objectionable to you, it shows your lack of expertise.
Just a nit — your post would have been fine without that last sentence, no need to be prickly. I haven’t touched RoR in 15 years and was not familiar with the name.
ZScaler gets pissed off going to frame.work just because of a “malicious TLD”.
I don’t even want to know what ZScaler thinks of “tender love making”.
Sounds like a problem between you and ZScaler (and possibly whoever forces you to use that crap) but not something that anyone else should care about.
The URL might be mistaken for some different content?
Well, then don't browse from the church computer
This reminds me of a flash games website from 2007. The domain was something like sogay.com. one time I had to spell it to my father. He asked if I'm sure before pressing enter lol
There is also PenIsland.net. I think there was also a .com that featured a big shop but they seem to have moved.
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I feel like you're the kind of person who can't recognise a joke