> Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.
Um... there was this thing called "September 11". It was after 1990. Out of the three named groups, 520 killed does not put them at the top.
The left only killed 15% as many people as the right. That is noteworthy. But saying that "Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than... radical Islamist extremists" has to be massively cherry-picking the data.
But I suppose it might depend on the point of the study. If the point is "what dangers should people in the US be worried about", then it's absolutely a cherry-pick. If international terrorists kill you, you're still just as dead. But if the point is "where should law enforcement focus its efforts", and if international terrorism is not the responsibility of the same people, then the distinction matters.
Note "not a responsibility" is different from "not primarily the responsibility".
> Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.
Would have been nice if you were as skeptical of what the OP wrote. But here's the summary from TFA:
"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism
has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of
far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of
terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990,
far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated
homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227
events that took more than 520 lives.1 In this same period, far-left
extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took
78 lives.2 A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of
Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an
acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-
related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to
immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue
to serve as a justification for violent actions."
Reading the actual study says:
> Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.
Link: https://archive.is/2024.10.24-222147/https://nij.ojp.gov/top...
Um... there was this thing called "September 11". It was after 1990. Out of the three named groups, 520 killed does not put them at the top.
The left only killed 15% as many people as the right. That is noteworthy. But saying that "Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than... radical Islamist extremists" has to be massively cherry-picking the data.
key word is domestic
It's still a massive cherry-pick.
But I suppose it might depend on the point of the study. If the point is "what dangers should people in the US be worried about", then it's absolutely a cherry-pick. If international terrorists kill you, you're still just as dead. But if the point is "where should law enforcement focus its efforts", and if international terrorism is not the responsibility of the same people, then the distinction matters.
Note "not a responsibility" is different from "not primarily the responsibility".
The first paragraph:
> Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.
https://www.publicnow.com/view/52C0B5B4B9D5E61F29777B936AD8F...
Here is the study, the link is not clickable if you have an account, you have to view source to get at it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140/https://www.ojp.g...
Thank you for being skeptical and looking up the actual research.
Unfortunately this article is the usual level of quality of 404 Media. Their domain should probably be autoflagged on HN submissions.
The article is not wrong just because the above commenter didn't like it. Take a look yourself: https://archive.is/2024.10.24-222147/https://nij.ojp.gov/top...
Would have been nice if you were as skeptical of what the OP wrote. But here's the summary from TFA:
"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.1 In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.2 A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic- related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140/https://www.ojp.g...
One standard response to someone quoting a source they do not link is always to go to the source. You may well be presented with cherry picked data.
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