Do people think this debate is new? We've literally been working on this problem for millennia and we're not really any closer even despite the huge ramp up in technological progress over the last couple hundred years.

Your remark on the adult/child/fetus/etc line is always one that I felt was under-examined in the context of the political discussion around abortion. And indeed most of the successful reasoning around abortion focuses less on the morality of a very specific kind of abortion, and more on the fact that you can't ban "true" abortion without also banning (or making dangerously more legally fraught) "aborted for reasons that give clear moral justification" - life of the mother, nonviability of the fetus, and so on. And even pro-choice people don't touch philosophical examination of "abortion for no reason except that the mother doesn't want to have and raise the baby." I mean, for obvious reasons. The public would be unable to have any kind of actual debate, and it's far too tied to things like "what is the nature of the self" (which I think is what's at hand in the AI discussion) and questions about the existence of God and of course the enormous can of worms of metaphysics.

My point with all this is that I suspect two things:

1) humans/industry/politics are not going to dig into the philosophy here in any real way

2) even if consciousness is a purely physical phenomenon, I somewhat doubt GPUs can do it, no matter how complicated.

I think if we ever really get down to it, it'll be the reverse direction. We'll "copy" human minds into a machine and then just need to "ask the people if they still feel the same."

Physicist Sean Carroll contends that we are closer to resolving this debate. Brains are only made from three things: protons, neutrons, and electrons and we know how they work here on planet Earth well enough to say that they do not have mental properties nor is there some mysterious soul interacting with them that we just haven't detected yet.

https://philpapers.org/archive/CARCAT-33

> And even pro-choice people don't touch philosophical examination of "abortion for no reason except that the mother doesn't want to have and raise the baby."

Huh? This is discussed all the time.