> I'm always amazed at this logic. It makes me wonder if you either have an incredible amount of free time or you don't rely on any service provided to you with a vehicle, or are you just not considering them when pondering this way openly?

Not really sure what you're getting at. Yes, I would get in an ambulance, or even a taxi, if I really needed one. That's not what "not car-centric" is about. No, I don't need things delivered to me and I don't need a car to access goods and services. I don't buy a lot in the first place; public transit works acceptably here; I'm capable of walking several km (and I'd spend the time on other forms of exercise otherwise); I mostly cook my own meals.

And there are parts of the world where public transit is actually good and it's often rational to take it even if trip time is your only consideration.

> That has almost no accessibility for the disabled or has accessible functionality that's terribly tacked on as an afterthought.

Yes, I didn't say it was good. But you can also still just talk to a cashier at the front counter here.

I was being a bit of a harsh hipster there; however, I always think about the sheer number of vehicles required just to keep your electricity or high speed internet running and how often I see that type of vehicle in a drive through. I think it's sometimes a little easy to forget why our lives are as convenient as they are.

In places without widespread drivethroughs they still have electricity and internet.

Non-car-centric doesn't mean no cars. It means a society not centered around the crazy amounts of cars.

A lot of those types of workers who have vans full of tools use them as their main vehicles. That van being in the drive through doesn't mean the drive through is supporting the societal function that's advertised on the van. It just means a worker who does that for a living is currently buying food there.

> the sheer number of vehicles required just to keep your electricity or high speed internet running

Yes, well, in large part that's due to choices other people could also make differently.