Meanwhile, I've been looking for a while and if they want a full stack or a FE developer it's always, always React. Rarely if ever Angular, occasionally Vue or Svelte, and never Phoenix.

I recall back in the day when Struts was everywhere, some of us figured out it was because Struts was a trap that took twice as many devs to get anything done, and that's why there are so many openings for it. Every time I look at React, I just wonder if it is the new Struts.

The old Angular apps I worked on (heck that was before AngularJS and Angular split) was pretty decent. Long argument lists were a big problem, sure, but the whole Service layer was one of the smartest features I've seen in a framework in a while. Second only to Routes. It saved us leaking a bunch of impedance mismatches across the entire codebase. It gave us some place to stash code while we asked the backend team to change their APIs.