FANG is not monolithic. Amazon is famously cheap. So is Apple in my opinion based on what I have heard (you get random refurbished hardware that is available not some standardized thing, sometimes with 8GB RAM sometimes something nicer) Apple is also famously cheap on their compensation. Back in the day they proudly said shit to the effect of "we deliberately don't pay you top of the market because you have to love Apple" to which the only valid answer is "go fuck yourself."

Google and Facebook I don't think are cheap for developers. I can speak firsthand for my past Google experience. You have to note that the company has like 200k employees and there needs to be some controls and not all of the company are engineers.

Hardware -> for the vast majority of stuff, you can build with blaze (think bazel) on a build cluster and cache, so local CPU is not as important. Nevertheless, you can easily order other stuff should you need to. Sure, if you go beyond the standard issue, your cost center will be charged and your manager gets an email. I don't think any decent manager would block you. If they do, change teams. Some powerful hardware that needs approval is blanket whitelisted for certain orgs that recognize such need.

Trips -> Google has this interesting model you have a soft cap for trips and if you don't hit the cap, you pocket half of the trips credit in your account which you can choose to spend later when you are overcap or you want to get something slightly nicer the next time. Also, they have clear and sane policies on mixing personal and corporate travel. I encourage everyone to learn about and deploy things like that in their companies. The caps are usually not unreasonable, but if you do hit them, it is again an email to your management chain, not some big deal. Never seen it blocked. If your request is reasonable and your manager is shrugging about this stuff, that should reflect on them being cheap not the company policy.

iOS development is still mostly local which is why most of the iOS developers at my previous Big Tech employer got Mac Studios as compiler machines in addition to their MacBook Pros. This requires director approval but is a formality.

I read Google is now issuing Chromebooks instead of proper computers to non-engineers, which has got to be corrosive to productivity and morale.

Google issued Chromebooks are not crap with 2GB RAM and Celeron. There were even engineers who voluntarily preferred them. From a security standpoint they are superb.

If you're not a developer and everything you need for your job runs in a browser, what's wrong with a Chromebook?

And has the upside of not having to force an antivirus or Crowdstrike or similar corporate spyware.

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> Chromebooks ... to non-engineers

"AI" (Plus) Chromebooks?

Google used to be so un-cheap they had a dedicated ergo lab room where you could try out different keyboards.

They eventually became so cheap they blanket paused refreshing developer laptops...

Yahoo was cheap/stingy/cost concious as hell. They still had a well stocked ergo team, at least for the years I was there. You'd schedule an ergo consult during new hire orientation, and you'd get a properly sized seat and your desk height adjusted if needed and etc. Lots of ergo keyboards, although I didn't see a lot of kinesis back then.

Proper ergo is a cost concious move. It helps keep your employees able to work which saves on hiring and training. It reduces medical expenses, which affects the bottom line because large companies are usually self-insured; they pay a medical insurance company only to administer the plan, not for insurance --- claims are paid from company money.

Some BigCos would benefit from <Brand> version numbers to demarcate changes in corporate leadership, culture and fiscal policy.

The soft cap thing seems like exactly this kind of penny-foolish behavior though. I’ve seen people spend hours trying to optimize their travel to hit the cap — or dealing with flight changes, etc that come from the “expense the flight later” model.

All this at my company would be a call or chat to the travel agent (which, sure, kind of a pain, but they also paid for dedicated agents so wait time was generally good).

> sometimes with 8GB RAM

Apple have long thought that 8Gb ram is good enough for anything, and will continue to for some time now.

Not sure what you are talking about re amzn.

I have a pretty high end MacBook Pro, and that pales in comparison to the compute I have access to.

The OP was talking beyond just compute hardware. Stuff like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/womenintech/comments/1jusbj2/amazon...

That’s fair criticism. I only corrected the hardware aspect of it all.

All of OPs posts in that thread are blatantly Chat GPT output

Because.. em-dashes? As many others have mentioned, ios/mac have auto em-dashes so it's not really a reliable indicator.

It’s so annoying that we’ve lost a legit and useful typographic convention just because some people think that AI overusing it means that all uses indicate AI.

Sure, I’ve stopped using em-dashes just to avoid the hassle of trying to educate people about a basic logical fallacy, but I reserve the right to be salty about it.

I find adding some typos and 1 or 2 bad grammer things lets you get away with whatever you want

> 1 or 2 bad grammer things

1 or 2 bed gamer things

Several things:

1) Em-dashes

2) "It's not X, it's Y" sentence structure

3) Comma-separated list that's exactly 3 items long

>1) Em-dashes

>3) Comma-separated list that's exactly 3 items long

Proper typography and hamburger paragraphs are canceled now because of AI? So much for what I learned high school english class.

>2) "It's not X, it's Y" sentence structure

This is a pretty weak point because it's n=1 (you can check OP's comment history and it's not repeated there), and that phrase is far more common in regular prose than some of the more egregious ones (eg. "delve").

You sound like a generated message from a corporate reputation AI defense bot

How do you know someone worked at Google?

Don’t worry, they’ll tell you

> Back in the day they proudly said shit to the effect of "we deliberately don't pay you top of the market because you have to love Apple" to which the only valid answer is "go fuck yourself."

So people started slacking off, because "you have to love your employees"?