> who put effort into figuring out good workflows for coding with LLMs are deceiving themselves, and are effectively wasting their time.

It's quite possible you do. Do you have any hard data justifying the claims of "this works better", or is it just a soft fuzzy feeling?

> The same goes for managing people, and yet somehow many good engineering managers can judge if their team is performing well

It's actually really easy to judge if a team is performing well.

What is hard is finding what actually makes the team perform well. And that is just as much magic as "if you just write the correct prompt everything will just work"

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wait. why are we fighting again? :) https://dmitriid.com/everything-around-llms-is-still-magical...