No, I'm aware of both involved technologies the implementations.
I test drove the Mazda3 for my kids and it had some faux-luxury accoutrements but fundamentally it was an inferior car: the technology implementation was worse.
Mazda hasn't invested in drivetrain implementations so they license Toyota's.
Mazda hasn't invested in ADAS software so they barely try.
Mazda hasn't invested in a decent suspension implementation so their 3 line uses some god-awful torsion beam garbage that feels completely unrefined and consumer.
> Mazda hasn't invested in drivetrain implementations so they license Toyota's.
??? Mazda has their own drivetrain development, there is nothing in a Mazda3 that is shared with a Toyota. The only company sharing drivetrain with Toyota is Subaru and BMW via their joint ventures on the BRZ/GR86 and the Z4/Supra.
> Mazda hasn't invested in a decent suspension implementation so their 3 line uses some god-awful torsion beam garbage that feels completely unrefined and consumer.
Mazda uses a torsion beam rear suspension on the Mazda3, that is true. While independent and multi-link suspensions /can/ be superior handling, it relies on having adjustability in the suspension arms to allow you to set your geometry to match your expected conditions and the tires you're using, which is to say that it's basically irrelevant in a commodity road-going vehicle, most of which offer no adjustment in the rear or toe-only adjustment. I say this as someone who raced cars as a hobby, and invested the time/effort/money to learn at least as much about suspension design as someone who did an undergrad in MechE, modeled my racecar's suspension in software, and worked with a shop to develop and produce custom suspension arms with full adjustability to match my ideal geometry.
Despite the technically "worse" torsion beam suspension in the rear of the Mazda3, it handles better than a Corolla XSE on a curvy road.
EDIT: I stand corrected, Mazda licenses the RAV4 Hybrid drivetrain for the CX-50 Hybrid crossover. Which is of course super-relevant to the Mazda3, a totally different vehicle, which almost anyone who cares about the drivetrian buys with the 2.5L turbo motor and PP so they get AWD, but hey who's counting.
No, I'm aware of both involved technologies the implementations.
I test drove the Mazda3 for my kids and it had some faux-luxury accoutrements but fundamentally it was an inferior car: the technology implementation was worse.
Mazda hasn't invested in drivetrain implementations so they license Toyota's. Mazda hasn't invested in ADAS software so they barely try. Mazda hasn't invested in a decent suspension implementation so their 3 line uses some god-awful torsion beam garbage that feels completely unrefined and consumer.
Bad.
> Mazda hasn't invested in drivetrain implementations so they license Toyota's.
??? Mazda has their own drivetrain development, there is nothing in a Mazda3 that is shared with a Toyota. The only company sharing drivetrain with Toyota is Subaru and BMW via their joint ventures on the BRZ/GR86 and the Z4/Supra.
> Mazda hasn't invested in a decent suspension implementation so their 3 line uses some god-awful torsion beam garbage that feels completely unrefined and consumer.
Mazda uses a torsion beam rear suspension on the Mazda3, that is true. While independent and multi-link suspensions /can/ be superior handling, it relies on having adjustability in the suspension arms to allow you to set your geometry to match your expected conditions and the tires you're using, which is to say that it's basically irrelevant in a commodity road-going vehicle, most of which offer no adjustment in the rear or toe-only adjustment. I say this as someone who raced cars as a hobby, and invested the time/effort/money to learn at least as much about suspension design as someone who did an undergrad in MechE, modeled my racecar's suspension in software, and worked with a shop to develop and produce custom suspension arms with full adjustability to match my ideal geometry.
Despite the technically "worse" torsion beam suspension in the rear of the Mazda3, it handles better than a Corolla XSE on a curvy road.
EDIT: I stand corrected, Mazda licenses the RAV4 Hybrid drivetrain for the CX-50 Hybrid crossover. Which is of course super-relevant to the Mazda3, a totally different vehicle, which almost anyone who cares about the drivetrian buys with the 2.5L turbo motor and PP so they get AWD, but hey who's counting.
I'd have simply deleted the post if the driving force of it were corrected.
Mazda licensed the drivetrain because they're a small company without much development going on. They can't really make anything good.
Their racing pedigree and long standing in the hot hatch category disagrees with you, so do the basic facts of the matter.
You've now written yourself off as an idiot with an axe to grind rather than any form of good faith interaction.