This is unlikely to be allowed, the last I checked, the law explicitly only allows "traditionally tipped jobs". How it gets interpreted and implemented in IRS Tax Code isn't clear yet, but they will probably have rules in place to prevent this.
Doesn't change the fact that it is a terrible idea.
Hmm, this makes me wonder though -- I have noticed various projects on Github and various other sites allow for users and fans of projects to donate to the developers and maintainers. Who hasn't seen the "wanna buy me a coffee?" button on a site before?
I am not sure if the money from such sources was ever taxed as income, but if so, then I wonder if such will be non-taxable now? Considering donation and tip buttons have some history behind them, perhaps such "jobs" could be considered "traditionally tipped jobs?"
> (h) Published List of Occupations Traditionally Receiving Tips.--
Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the
Secretary of the Treasury (or the Secretary's delegate) shall publish a
list of occupations which customarily and regularly received tips on or
before December 31, 2024, for purposes of section 224(d)(1) of the
Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (as added by subsection (a)).
Technically that money should be reported on a 1099 misc. but is it generally enough to even have an auditor look at it? I'd guess not. But you do technically need to.
At least the current version of the code has a ton of limits on what can be labeled tips, and the benefit phases out completely around $150k, and is only applicable to professional that traditionally receive a significant portion of income from tips - so it's not like you're going to have billionaires and PE fund managers paying themselves from their companies tens of millions in bonuses labeled as "Tips" and not paying any tax.
~90% of tipped workers REPORT less than $61k in income already. At that income, you're barely paying much income tax anyway.
This is just a trick to make people think they wouldn't have to pay social security and Medicare - which is the main tax they're paying - when in reality, ~90% of tipped workers will get next to nothing.
This is unlikely to be allowed, the last I checked, the law explicitly only allows "traditionally tipped jobs". How it gets interpreted and implemented in IRS Tax Code isn't clear yet, but they will probably have rules in place to prevent this.
Doesn't change the fact that it is a terrible idea.
Hmm, this makes me wonder though -- I have noticed various projects on Github and various other sites allow for users and fans of projects to donate to the developers and maintainers. Who hasn't seen the "wanna buy me a coffee?" button on a site before?
I am not sure if the money from such sources was ever taxed as income, but if so, then I wonder if such will be non-taxable now? Considering donation and tip buttons have some history behind them, perhaps such "jobs" could be considered "traditionally tipped jobs?"
They will publish a list
> (h) Published List of Occupations Traditionally Receiving Tips.-- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury (or the Secretary's delegate) shall publish a list of occupations which customarily and regularly received tips on or before December 31, 2024, for purposes of section 224(d)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (as added by subsection (a)).
Technically that money should be reported on a 1099 misc. but is it generally enough to even have an auditor look at it? I'd guess not. But you do technically need to.
At least the current version of the code has a ton of limits on what can be labeled tips, and the benefit phases out completely around $150k, and is only applicable to professional that traditionally receive a significant portion of income from tips - so it's not like you're going to have billionaires and PE fund managers paying themselves from their companies tens of millions in bonuses labeled as "Tips" and not paying any tax.
~90% of tipped workers REPORT less than $61k in income already. At that income, you're barely paying much income tax anyway.
This is just a trick to make people think they wouldn't have to pay social security and Medicare - which is the main tax they're paying - when in reality, ~90% of tipped workers will get next to nothing.
Plenty of early stage PMC jobs make under $150k, pay bonuses and CEOs would gladly be able to pay a little less if they can finagle it to be tax free.
Do they have a list of professions and industries eligible or are they going with weak “traditionally tipped “ language?
And we expect the DOGEd and defanged IRS to vigorously enforce?
> Do they have a list of professions
Yes.
> And we expect the DOGEd and defanged IRS to vigorously enforce?
It's easy to enforce as written, even with a defunded IRS.
Whether or not it will be enforced is a different question entirely. My crystal ball isn't working.