If you need a specialized skill set (deep knowledge of current LLM limitations) to distinguish between human and machine then I would say the machine passes the turing test.
If you need a specialized skill set (deep knowledge of current LLM limitations) to distinguish between human and machine then I would say the machine passes the turing test.
OK, but that's just your own "fool some of the people some of the time" interpretation of what a Turing test should be, and by that measure ELIZA passed the Turing test too, which makes it rather meaningless.
The intent (it was just a thought experiment) of a Turing test, was that if you can't tell it's not AGI, then it is AGI, which is semi-reasonable, as long as it's not the village idiot administering the test! It was never intended to be "if it can fool some people, some of the time, then it's AGI".
Turing's own formulation was "an average interrogator will not have more than 70% chance of making the right identification after five minutes of questioning". It is, indeed, "fool some of the people some of the time".
OK, I stand corrected, but then it is what it is. It's not a meaningful test for AGI - it's a test of being able to fool "Mr. Average" for at least 5 min.
I think that's all we have in terms of determining consciousness.. if something can convince you, like another human, then we just have to accept that it is.
Agreed. I tend to stand with the sibling commenter who said "ELIZA has been passing the Turing test for years". That's what the Turing test is. Nothing more.