> Conflating "police reform" and "defund the police" is disingenuous

In New York they were one and the same. The latter simply representing the most extreme expression of the former.

I remember dropping into a leftist conference in Philadelphia years ago where several folks who would become the face of post-Covid police reform were there, including Boudin. At the end of the day they all conceded that their goal was abolishing this, that and the other thing.

> In New York they were one and the same.

As a NY resident: lol.

I don't doubt you'll find activists espousing both "defund the police" and "end cash bail" policies at the same time. That doesn't make them the same policy.

> That doesn't make them the same policy

Oh, they’re totally different policies. But they’re basically the same politics. And they both generated a backlash, one against messaging (because it was too stupid to implement) and one against policy (because it created more visible crime).

A leftist conference? I don't think actual leftists have much say on policy.