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Please stop this. Other community members are complaining, and for good reason. You both seem to want to avoid fascism and oppression, which is great. You seem bitterly opposed about what approaches are most effective at achieving it, and are using that to justify continually escalating personal attacks on each other. Please step away from the keyboard, take some time to cool down, and recognize that this is no way to resolve age-old debates like this.

You've both broken several guidelines in this subthread, most notably the one against personal swipes, but others too. Please read them and observe them if you're going to comment here, otherwise don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Please stop this. Other community members are complaining, and for good reason. You both seem to want to avoid fascism and oppression, which is great. You seem bitterly opposed about what approaches are most effective at achieving it, and are using that to justify continually escalating personal attacks on each other. Please step away from the keyboard, take some time to cool down, and recognize that this is no way to resolve age-old debates like this.

You've both broken several guidelines in this subthread, most notably the one against personal swipes, but others too. Please read them and observe them if you're going to comment here, otherwise don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html