Or just join the foiling community and go 40% wave riding. 80+% if pure down winding. Entree is a little more expensive but you save on not having to travel exotic locations (or not at all).

The one time I see surfing mentioned on HN and of course HN squeezes out the most nerdy take on surfing possible

Literally why I'm here

Everyone else in the water will hate you though. Everyone. Even the sea janitors are above you in social standing.

I think you have got your emotions mixed up, what you mean is called being jealous :)

No, obviously, I understand the hate towards those foiling in a crowed point breaks. But, at least in my circle, most of it happens in places where nobody's surfing anyways. Downwinding is pretty much invisible. Surfing has fallen victim of its own success with overcrowded spots (people intentionally breaking each others surfboards, come on) and the necessary travelling isn't great for the planet either (nor is a carbon foil, obviously)

Not op, just an observation, when you are underwater e.g. diving these things are really loud. Of course jet skis etc are even worse but the latter is not permitted were I go diving. Maybe that's part of the resentment.

Why?

Nothin personnel