That's my case. My old place had a brand new one and it did everything perfectly. My new place has one that's pretty old and not only does it need a pre-rinse, it doesn't even dry things (and unlike my old one, it needs a rinse aid)! And if it breaks, I'm sure the landlord will replace it with an empty area under the counter.
I think older dishwashers are more likely to have built in garbage disposals which is actually a huge win. On newer dishwashers one of the biggest problems is that people don't clean the filter regularly
If you stuff something covered in egg yolk in there it's coming out with egg yolk on it. If you don't scrape whole chunks of potato off the plate, you're rolling the dice with whether you pull it out of a filter or out of the thin hose between the dishwasher and the drain. The dishwasher's not magic - if it takes a scrub to get it off, you need to scrub it.
I don't know about handwashing after it comes out though, that's crazy.
Egg yolk is no problem whatsoever for a modern dishwasher and detergent. And obviously you don't put whole potato chunks in the machine. Don't be stupid.
re: hard water: your dishwasher has a setting for that. Set it correctly and make the dishwasher salt compartment isn't empty and your dishwasher will deal fine with hard water.
This is a geographical difference. North American market dishwashers don't typically have that; people use whole-dwelling water softeners that feed all washers (including human).
Water softeners aren't actually standard issue in all dishwashers, but if you're replacing your dishwasher it isn't hard to find one with that feature.
I've just been told that it's not standard in North America, but it's definitely a standard feature where I'm at. I've got the cheapest IKEA dishwasher and it has that feature.
Interesting cultural differences cropping up in unexpected places I suppose.
Ok. I quickly rinse the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, and put them straight back to the cupboard once it's done. I've been washing dishes by hand for 15 years and now I have my first dishwasher. So I know the difference, and I'm loving it.
I don't even rinse - I just throw bigger chunks of food to the garbage can and that's it. I event let the sauce to flow to the bottom of the dishwasher.
We are on a well (rural area). The water is so hard here that when the house was built, they needed both a water softener and an iron filter to treat it.
I had an issue this winter with my septic system freezing up and in order to prevent an overflow before the tank could be pumped, I was told to put the treatment system on bypass (water softener cycles dump a lot of waste water down the drain). Even with the hard well water going through the dishwasher, it never failed to clean the dishes properly. This dishwasher is 22 years old.
I think a lot of dishwasher opinions are based on how your mom told you to wash the dishes 35 years ago.
To be fair some people rent places with really old dishwashers.
That's my case. My old place had a brand new one and it did everything perfectly. My new place has one that's pretty old and not only does it need a pre-rinse, it doesn't even dry things (and unlike my old one, it needs a rinse aid)! And if it breaks, I'm sure the landlord will replace it with an empty area under the counter.
I think older dishwashers are more likely to have built in garbage disposals which is actually a huge win. On newer dishwashers one of the biggest problems is that people don't clean the filter regularly
If you stuff something covered in egg yolk in there it's coming out with egg yolk on it. If you don't scrape whole chunks of potato off the plate, you're rolling the dice with whether you pull it out of a filter or out of the thin hose between the dishwasher and the drain. The dishwasher's not magic - if it takes a scrub to get it off, you need to scrub it.
I don't know about handwashing after it comes out though, that's crazy.
Egg yolk is no problem whatsoever for a modern dishwasher and detergent. And obviously you don't put whole potato chunks in the machine. Don't be stupid.
GE machines come with a garbage disposal built-in. Be as stupid as you want, things are still coming out clean.
https://www.geappliances.com/appliances/dishwashers-with-pir...
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Most people don't wash the dishes coming out of the dishwasher.
I guess you might legitimately be confused about that.
Anyway, the other poster wasn't trying to rebut you, they were prompting to explain why you do those things.
re: hard water: your dishwasher has a setting for that. Set it correctly and make the dishwasher salt compartment isn't empty and your dishwasher will deal fine with hard water.
This is a geographical difference. North American market dishwashers don't typically have that; people use whole-dwelling water softeners that feed all washers (including human).
Oh huh, that's pretty wild. Learned something new today!
I don't think I've seen salt compartments in dishwashers in North America.
I have one in mine. though it's a bosch which is german owned.
Only Bosch and Miele have them, that I've seen.
Water softeners aren't actually standard issue in all dishwashers, but if you're replacing your dishwasher it isn't hard to find one with that feature.
I've just been told that it's not standard in North America, but it's definitely a standard feature where I'm at. I've got the cheapest IKEA dishwasher and it has that feature.
Interesting cultural differences cropping up in unexpected places I suppose.
Ok. I quickly rinse the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, and put them straight back to the cupboard once it's done. I've been washing dishes by hand for 15 years and now I have my first dishwasher. So I know the difference, and I'm loving it.
I don't even rinse - I just throw bigger chunks of food to the garbage can and that's it. I event let the sauce to flow to the bottom of the dishwasher.
We are on a well (rural area). The water is so hard here that when the house was built, they needed both a water softener and an iron filter to treat it.
I had an issue this winter with my septic system freezing up and in order to prevent an overflow before the tank could be pumped, I was told to put the treatment system on bypass (water softener cycles dump a lot of waste water down the drain). Even with the hard well water going through the dishwasher, it never failed to clean the dishes properly. This dishwasher is 22 years old.
I have hard water and my dishes are not made worse by the dishwasher. They actually come out better. Maybe depends on your detergent?
A dishwasher with a built in water softener fixes the problem. But really a whole home water softener is a good idea if your water is super hard.
I have a well so I have a water softener?