I am asking for simple evidence of something that was claimed to be widespread, but so far no one has presented any.
Can you link me to evidence that a leftist group attacked a student because of their ethnicity?
I am asking for simple evidence of something that was claimed to be widespread, but so far no one has presented any.
Can you link me to evidence that a leftist group attacked a student because of their ethnicity?
I am lost for words, what kind of evidence will you deem sufficient?
Surely the two students attacked at the start of the article due to wearing yarmulkes in public by a man wearing a keffiyeh is not related to subscribing to a specific ideology
The keffiyeh bit reads as really suspect (not saying the student was lying—mistakes are common in these situations) given all the other details of that incident I can find in other sources covering this. That claim appears to be the only connection to the pro-Palestine movement of the attack by a 52 year old white townie whose mugshot reads "homeless"—all of which paints a very different picture.
Maybe, I actually believe that the many instances of obvious non college participants does not cast these protestors in a good light
In any case, another example, A US court ruled an organized attack by a leftist group on Jews by physically blocking them from entering the campus if they refused to declare they agree with the "leftist" group
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-rules-jewish-stud...
I believe there's ample evidence that campus life in many american universities was hostile to many jews, and it is enough to watch Claudine Gay congressional hearing to understand they were reluctant to do anything about it
> Those who complied with the protesters’ view were issued wristbands to allow them to pass through, the complaint says, which effectively barred Jewish students who supported Israel
So, just to be clear, it was because they were pro-Israel, and not because they were Jewish.
If it was because they were Jewish, Jewish students that oppose Israeli occupation wouldn’t be allowed through.
Conflating the Jewish identity with support for Israel is a subtle ideological trick, one that Jewish antizionists consider to be antisemitic.
Well, a US court ruled that this was exclusion of Jews, not me, but what do you think about this?
https://www.courthousenews.com/jewish-students-harassed-duri...
A US court hasn’t ruled anything on that case yet. It hasn’t been heard yet.
I don’t want to be mean or anything but you aren’t succeeding in convincing me that leftist groups are plotting to attack Jews.
[flagged]
I know that Jewish people are attacked by antisemites. No one is questioning that Jews face race-based hatred, just like Muslims do. Especially after 9/11, Muslims face a lot of antimuslim sentiment here.
I am questioning the notion that leftist groups on universities are doing antimuslim or antijewish activities.
The article you linked writes this about the perpetrator of the attack you're referencing here: "The man, whom police later identified as Jarrett Buba, a 52-year-old white man from Pittsburgh"
That doesn't really sound like a leftist student protestor to me. I was told that leftist student protestors are attacking people based solely on their ethnicity, so I'd like some evidence of this.
I don't think you want evidence of this, I think you'd like to be combative, therefore I am disengaging
I was very clear about what I wanted to see evidence of at the beginning and my request has not changed since you started engaging:
>What organised group of leftists has attacked a group of people based on their ethnicity? Do you have a link you could share?
I am not being combative; I am requesting evidence of a claim that was made at me.
You request me to supply evidence, I can only make a request for you to actually read the article
I did. I didn't see evidence of a leftist student group targeting students based on ethnicity in the article you sent me.
Can you quote the part that talks about this to me?
Reading this without a side, all they're asking you is to prove what you said, which is that leftist student groups are being racist/violent/antisemitic in an organized way.
You haven't shown any evidence to support your notion that "both sides the same" in regards to left/liberals banding together to promote their hateful ways.
There is, however, widespread and constant organization on the right to enact hateful/racist/antisemitic rhetoric. One can just go to foxnews for that.
Your argument is weird and I think the majority of people wouldn't buy it.
I don't think it really matters if it was organized based on hate for a specific ethnicity, I think for one that the western tradition of antisemitism is so embedded in the culture it is still pretty rampant, but racism is hard to prove today when everyone is disingenuous about it.
What actually matters is that some of the same groups that organized these protests celebrated the massacres in october right afterwards (google SJP october 7). When a student organization supports a massacre that kills a thousand civilians with the added atrocities or further calls for genocide of that group (but only in Israel!), obviously members of that ethnicity will feel threatened
Is that worth restricting free speech for? that's a different question, but the protests could have been done in a less restrictive way for other students and when you compare it to some of the more extreme cases of Title IX investigations, and university administrators saying that calls for genocide of jews is not violations of Harvard policies, you have to ask yourself is free speech really the issue
The claim was "Organized groups of Lefists and Muslims in the US became increasingly violent and started to attack a group of people based on their ethnicity."
I asked for evidence. It has devolved into the message you just wrote, which still does not supply evidence that "Organized groups of Lefists and Muslims in the US became increasingly violent and started to attack a group of people based on their ethnicity."
This is disappointing.