It'd be funny to hack the range extender's protocol so you could install a diesel electric generator instead of a battery pack.
It'd be funny to hack the range extender's protocol so you could install a diesel electric generator instead of a battery pack.
Interesting project.
I wonder if you could get a useful system without using up the entire bed. In order to get "infinite" range while towing, you'd probably want at least a 100kW ICE in the back. A 100kW diesel generator is a beefy boy, those usually come on a two axle trailer. But maybe you could build something more compact with a performance motorcycle engine...
Also, can the cybertruck charge its main battery from the range extender? Or can it drive while the charging port is supplied with current? The entire idea kind of dies if the ICE can't charge the main battery, you really want that to buffer demand.
Agreed with regard to the project dying if it can't charge the main battery.
Supposing that's not a problem, if the GP is right about the Ramcharger using an ICE to run the electric motors, then in principle we pretty much already know it's possible from a power density perspective.
I suppose one could start running the generator at the beginning of the trip instead of waiting for the main battery to drain significantly. Perhaps you couldn't get "infinite" range, but you could stretch your main battery's range out far enough that for all practical purposes you wouldn't care—you could either get to a charger or find some diesel and wait an hour or two after a 10+ hour trip for the generator to recharge the main battery.
> the Ramcharger using an ICE to run the electric motors, then in principle we pretty much already know it's possible from a power density perspective
They have the advantage building the powerplant (and all its periphery) into the chassis. That saves a lot of material on engine mounts and covers, you can skip the cabin heater heat pump, ect.
A big difference is also if you design it for towing or not. You can probably get functionally infinite highway range with a 20kW ICE if you don't want to tow. And those you can build real tiny. You can probably do with a 125cc with the cutest little turbo the world has every seen.
A generator capable of more then 20mph charging would be beyond the towing capacity.
Are you sure? Google tells me a Cybertruck uses around 400 Wh of energy per mile. 20 miles worth of charging then would be 8000 Wh. To generate that much in an hour would take an 8000 W generator.
The first 8000 W generator I found [1] is 200 lbs.
Here's a 24000 W generator [2] that weighs 455 lbs. The weight of its fuel (propane) would be a little under 17 lbs for each hour's worth.
[1] https://www.generac.com/residential-products/portable-genera...
[2] https://www.generac.com/globalassets/products/residential/st...
Yes I was exaggerating; the 455lbs 24kW generator would probably be >20mph but not the 8000W one given all the losses.
range extender wartime style:
https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1608407902242635781?lang=en