Knowing that it doesn't matter how badly you screw up, you'll always be able to cover your most basic needs.
This is one. We should go deeper into this question. I most certainly would continue doing a lot of the things I do now, but for fun and to progress the state-of-the-art in my field of work. I'd accept higher taxes in compensation for the assurance I will always be able to do what I do best, instead of what someone would pay me to do.
This assumes people just stop doing anything of value if there no longer is a proverbial stick in the form of financial ruin if they stop working.
Nobody is saying that the carrot (personal financial gain) needs to be removed from the equation. Just that everyone is guaranteed some basic level of financial support.
Society already produces enough wealth to cover the expense of UBI. Remember it would replace any other welfare systems in place today.
Personally I think I might take a bit more risk, and choose to do something that I personally believe is of actual value to society rather than please some corporation or VC.
> it would replace any other welfare systems in place today
I’ve never seen this math worked out.
Also, some benefits are inherently lumpy. A special-needs or chronically-ill person needs (and receives) resources that wouldn’t be covered by a broad-spectrum UBI.
Most UBI proposals assume a functioning healthcare system, which would deal with most of those needs. Probably not all, so you could certainly have additional programs as needed.
What's your incentive for continuing to eat, drink, and breathe once your overlords have fulfilled their greatest dream and replaced their need for human labor with robots and machines and other forms of automation? Your purpose will have been fulfilled and your existence now meaningless. That is the ultimate goal we're all working for, right? Being freed from working for our overlords so that we can all just lay down and die and leave the world to the worst of humanity?
the "overlords" already have enough money to pay a team of real live human beings to tend to their every need until they die, AGI robots aren't going to change that for them.
Knowing that it doesn't matter how badly you screw up, you'll always be able to cover your most basic needs.
This is one. We should go deeper into this question. I most certainly would continue doing a lot of the things I do now, but for fun and to progress the state-of-the-art in my field of work. I'd accept higher taxes in compensation for the assurance I will always be able to do what I do best, instead of what someone would pay me to do.
> > People in a functioning society still have to work
.. to pay taxes for social services.
> I'd accept higher taxes ...
how do you pay for these taxes if you have no job/income?
This assumes people just stop doing anything of value if there no longer is a proverbial stick in the form of financial ruin if they stop working.
Nobody is saying that the carrot (personal financial gain) needs to be removed from the equation. Just that everyone is guaranteed some basic level of financial support.
Society already produces enough wealth to cover the expense of UBI. Remember it would replace any other welfare systems in place today.
Personally I think I might take a bit more risk, and choose to do something that I personally believe is of actual value to society rather than please some corporation or VC.
> it would replace any other welfare systems in place today
I’ve never seen this math worked out.
Also, some benefits are inherently lumpy. A special-needs or chronically-ill person needs (and receives) resources that wouldn’t be covered by a broad-spectrum UBI.
Most UBI proposals assume a functioning healthcare system, which would deal with most of those needs. Probably not all, so you could certainly have additional programs as needed.
You are already subsidizing non-work in others, however currently their non-work is at a 'job' that they commute to every day.
Do I correctly understand that your argument is that because something undesirable currently is happening I should support policies to increase it?
What's your incentive for continuing to eat, drink, and breathe once your overlords have fulfilled their greatest dream and replaced their need for human labor with robots and machines and other forms of automation? Your purpose will have been fulfilled and your existence now meaningless. That is the ultimate goal we're all working for, right? Being freed from working for our overlords so that we can all just lay down and die and leave the world to the worst of humanity?
the "overlords" already have enough money to pay a team of real live human beings to tend to their every need until they die, AGI robots aren't going to change that for them.
"Overlords" are a meme.
In both the US and UK over 30% of households are owned outright with no mortgage.
The economy is made up of us, it's not (predominantly) a downtrodden serving a tiny elite.
It isn't my ultimate goal.