> The personal papers of the neurophysiologist John C. Lilly at Stanford University hold a classified paper he wrote in the late 1950s on the behavioural modification and control of ‘human agents’ ... Lilly accepted a position as head of the Section of Cortical Integration at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland. His appointment was based on an ambitious ‘Proposal for a Research Program on the Relations Between the Activities of the Brain, Body and Mind’. Combining communications theory, neurophysiology, and psychoanalysis, his aim was to use new brain-mapping techniques to physically locate and manipulate behavioural correlates in the brains of monkeys, cats, humans, and later dolphins.
The SSE sounds kind of like Land's notion of techno-capitalism being an AI assembling itself from the future (which was always somewhat pharmaceutically inspired).
They are not "discoveries" they are "ideas." People get to discuss ideas without taking them seriously.
The battle between the ECCO faction and the SSE faction is a representation of our own, individual, biological drives and conflicts. We will certainly evolve some kind of super-powerful system and it will be an extension of biological characteristics we currently posses. The point of the idea is to realize both possibilities exist within us at this very moment and to understand our choices can influence the thing that is created that will out-pace us. It's just about which genes will be expressed into the super-system, which is the same old story since genetics begat itself.
Those are not just ideas, man, have you ever even floated? I have done mad edibles in a float tank and I got to tell you, the Solid State Entity is real. Open your mind brother.
I'm happy for you that your undrugged mind is so full of logical clarity to the benefit of mankind and any type of drug would disturb this pristine well of wisdom
You apparently know nothing about the typical human condition so I'm guessing you're young, had rich parents and grew up surrounded by adults who catered to your every need and smoothed out every issue that caused you negative thoughts. I suggest you read Herman Hesse's Siddhartha as an introduction to Buddhism and how The Buddha, who grew up in similar circumstances, discovered that life is suffering and how to manage this fact. Drugs, both legal and illegal, can be a tool in exploring the roots of this suffering within one's own mind.
Never thought I'd see the SSE referenced here on HN. Things are getting weirder...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6899429/
> The personal papers of the neurophysiologist John C. Lilly at Stanford University hold a classified paper he wrote in the late 1950s on the behavioural modification and control of ‘human agents’ ... Lilly accepted a position as head of the Section of Cortical Integration at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland. His appointment was based on an ambitious ‘Proposal for a Research Program on the Relations Between the Activities of the Brain, Body and Mind’. Combining communications theory, neurophysiology, and psychoanalysis, his aim was to use new brain-mapping techniques to physically locate and manipulate behavioural correlates in the brains of monkeys, cats, humans, and later dolphins.
When he was describing the ECCO I kept imagining extradimensional offices full of ADM3A terminals...
The SSE sounds kind of like Land's notion of techno-capitalism being an AI assembling itself from the future (which was always somewhat pharmaceutically inspired).
This is about a man drugging himself and reporting on it. This article takes his 'discoveries' far too seriously.
They are not "discoveries" they are "ideas." People get to discuss ideas without taking them seriously.
The battle between the ECCO faction and the SSE faction is a representation of our own, individual, biological drives and conflicts. We will certainly evolve some kind of super-powerful system and it will be an extension of biological characteristics we currently posses. The point of the idea is to realize both possibilities exist within us at this very moment and to understand our choices can influence the thing that is created that will out-pace us. It's just about which genes will be expressed into the super-system, which is the same old story since genetics begat itself.
Those are not just ideas, man, have you ever even floated? I have done mad edibles in a float tank and I got to tell you, the Solid State Entity is real. Open your mind brother.
Your bad program incited you to derail this discussion!
Why would you trust the ideas of a person who willingly incapacitated himself?
Oh my. Brilliant scientist takes drugs to explore the nature of consciousness, and square reader squirms: "Incapacitation! Invalid!"
I'm happy for you that your undrugged mind is so full of logical clarity to the benefit of mankind and any type of drug would disturb this pristine well of wisdom
That's just the default human condition.
> human condition
You apparently know nothing about the typical human condition so I'm guessing you're young, had rich parents and grew up surrounded by adults who catered to your every need and smoothed out every issue that caused you negative thoughts. I suggest you read Herman Hesse's Siddhartha as an introduction to Buddhism and how The Buddha, who grew up in similar circumstances, discovered that life is suffering and how to manage this fact. Drugs, both legal and illegal, can be a tool in exploring the roots of this suffering within one's own mind.
So is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception
(In short: a mescaline trip in May 1953)
Did Aldous Huxley take himself too seriously?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perennial_Philosophy
Recommended Huxley reading for the committed Materialists of HN.
He sure did. This was a man so vain he refused to wear glasses even though he needed them.
Yes, garbage in garbage out.