> Forget? You have to hire people for that. We are a software organization. We build software.
You don't need to hire dedicated people full time. It could even be outsourced and then a small contract for maintenance.
It's the same argument you could say for "accounting persons", or "HR persons" - "We are a software organisation!" - Personally I don't buy the argument.
Outsourcing and cloud cost are always underestimated.
> It could even be outsourced and then a small contract for maintenance.
Yeah, those people we outsourced to happen to work at AWS.
They don't though. You still need devops when you use AWS, and most organisations end up needing more time spent on devops when they use AWS.